Health minister plays down ‘selective’ leaked messages suggesting Hancock rejected advice on care home Covid testing – live

Ministers suggests WhatsApp leak gives ‘limited and at times misleading’ impression of Hancock’s care home policy

Helen Whately, the health minister, is responding to the urgent question.

She says Matt Hancock set ambitious targets for testing. “The importance of testing was never in doubt, and there was full agreement on that in every part of government,” she says.

But she says at the start the government did not have the capacity to do mass testing.

The government built the largest testing capacity in Europe, she says.

She says “selective snippets” of WhatsApp conversations give a “limited and at times misleading” impression as to what happened.

Key events

Richard Tice, Reform UK leader and Oakeshott’s partner, says WhatsApp leak justified because Covid inquiry may not uncover truth

The social care UQ is over.

Richard Tice, leader of Reform UK, the successor to the Brexit party which is challenging the Tory party from the right, is the partner of Isabel Oakeshott, the journalist behind the release of WhatsApp messages being used by the Telegraph to criticise Matt Hancock.

Tice and Oakeshott are both strong critics of the government’s lockdown policy, which they believe was too restrictive, and in an interview with GB News this morning Tice said the Telegraph revelations were justified because the public was not told the truth about what happened. He said:

It’s really important that the public understand the extent to which our politicians didn’t tell us the truth all the way through these lockdowns and the consequences of that.

You remember those words, ‘we’re making the right decisions based on the best science at the right time’? Well, it turned out that wasn’t the case.

Very often they were making decisions to suit their own political expediency and ignoring some of the right advice and completely refusing to look at advice from other people.

The reality is that these messages, they proved what we feared, those of us who were sceptical of the lockdowns and the merits of them, we feared what was going on.

Tice also said he was not confident the inquiry would uncover the truth. He said:

Our real concern here is that the inquiry will turn out to be literally a whitewash and establishment cover-up to show that everybody did the best thing and that simply isn’t the truth and people deserve it.

The people deserve the truth.

Richard Tice.
Richard Tice. Photograph: Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

Aaron Bell (Con) accuses Labour of being “opportunistic” in the way they are attacking the government’s Covid policy “with hindsight”. Whately says he is “100% right”.

Kieran Mullan (Con) claims Labour has misled the public about the government’s record on handling the pandemic. He says Labour should apologise for that. Labour said the UK had the worst death toll in Europe, but its record wasn’t the worst, and was broadly in line with France’s and Germany’s, he says.

Whately agrees. She says the country needs to reflect on what happened.

Whately says, if Labour was in power, she is sure that, like the government, it would have tried to make the best decisions in the light of the information available.

Daisy Cooper (Lib Dem) why Jacob Rees-Mogg was able to get a Covid test sent to his home by courier when there was a national shortage of tests.

Whately says she needed a test for her family, and used the same app as everyone else.

Peter Bone (Con) says Labour wants to rewrite history. At the time people did not know what was right or wrong. One of Matt Hancock’s messages said: “Tell me if I’m wrong.” He says the Covid inquiry must consider this. But can it report earlier?

Whateley says at the time there was “a huge amount of uncertainty”.

As for the timing of the inquiry, that is not under the control of ministers, she says.

Updated at 07.59 EST

Sir Oliver Heald (Con) says what was are seeing today is “trial by media”.

Whately agrees. She says the public inquiry should be allowed to do its job.

Whately is responding to Kendall.

She says the government had to limit testing at first. The courts have backed the decisions taken by the government about whom to prioritise, she says.

She says the WhatsApp messages that have been published are selective. Advice was given in other places. The evidence has been given to the inquiry, she says.

She quotes from an email sent after the WhatsApp exchanges reported by the Telegraph saying everyone going into care home should be tested “as capacity allows”.

Ministers did all they could to protect people, including the most vulnerable, she says.

She says Kendall was happy to support what the government was doing at the time. This is not the right time to play political games, she says.

Liz Kendall, the shadow social care minister, asks why Matt Hancock ignored medical advice to test all people going into care homes. She says relatives of people who died will be “appalled” by his attempt to rewrite history.

Ministers suggests WhatsApp leak gives ‘limited and at times misleading’ impression of Hancock’s care home policy

Helen Whately, the health minister, is responding to the urgent question.

She says Matt Hancock set ambitious targets for testing. “The importance of testing was never in doubt, and there was full agreement on that in every part of government,” she says.

But she says at the start the government did not have the capacity to do mass testing.

The government built the largest testing capacity in Europe, she says.

She says “selective snippets” of WhatsApp conversations give a “limited and at times misleading” impression as to what happened.

PMQs – snap verdict

That was an unremarkable and easily forgettable PMQs. Neither Keir Starmer nor Rishi Sunak were particularly on form and, among the party leaders, Stephen Flynn probably did best, with a zinger of a question on Brexit. (See 12.16pm.)

Starmer adopted a scattergun approach, going from one issue to another. His questions, crafted to make a point rather than elicit an answer, were fine, but none of them were particularly new or powerful, and because he was trying to cover so much ground, it meant that it was hard to know what his main point was.

At least a couple of times Sunak responded by avoiding the question altogether. Some of his retorts were reasonably effective in debating terms, but he did not “land” a serious message overall. CCHQ is trying hard at the moment to argue that Labour’s policy programme is just a catalogue of “unfunded commitments”. At the election, this will be an important debate. But the CCHQ material is not really getting an audience at all, at the moment. As Starmer pointed out, after the mini-budget, CCHQ has lost credibility on this issue.

Updated at 08.02 EST

Keir Starmer has received a surprise endorsement from Isabel Oakeshott.

I’m delighted @Keir_Starmer just called for the covid inquiry to report by end of this year. As @RishiSunak said, the public inquiry has the resources it needs and the powers it needs. What it doesn’t have is a deadline! Which suits certain people very well #TheLockdownFiles

— Isabel Oakeshott (@IsabelOakeshott) March 1, 2023

Joanna Cherry (SNP) says she and Sunak have both had to sort out consitutional messes caused by Boris Johnson. Sunak said Northern Ireland would benefit from being in the EU single market. If NI can have a special status, why can’t Scotland have one?

Sunak says Scotland has a special status – “inside the United Kingdom”.

Updated at 07.26 EST

Craig Tracey (Con) asks if stopping illegal crossings remains a piority?

Sunak says the government must do more. “As soon as the legislation is ready” it will be published, he says.

Cat Smith (Lab) asks about a hosptial supposed to be one of the government’s “40 new hospitals”. But no development is happening, she says.

Sunak says, as well as the 40 hospitals, there are 90 upgrades. The government is backing the NHS, he says.

Sarah Champion (Lab) says 79 people have been killed on smart motorways. She says the government is still rolling them out. They are “death trap roads”. Why is that justified?

Sunak says last year the rollout was paused. Safety is a priority, he says.

Virginia Crosbie (Con) asks if the government will develop more nuclear power.

Sunak says the govenrment is committed to more nuclear power plants, and that Crosbie’s constituency, Ynys Môn, would make a good site for a development.

Updated at 07.21 EST

Stephen Flynn, the SNP leader at Westminster, says Sunak said yesterday access to the single market was special, exciting and attractive. Why is Sunak denying it to the rest of the country.

Sunak says it is disappointing that Flynn is playing politics with this. Northern Ireland has a special place in the UK.

Flynn says Sunak was more positive about the single market than Keir Starmer.

What the prime minister said yesterday is that EU single market access will be a good thing for business. Now of course that’s in contrast to the leader of the Labour party who said in December, that EU single market access would not boost economic growth.

Does it hurt the prime minister to know that the Labour party believe in Brexit more than he does?

Sunak says this is about getting the right mechanisms in place for Northern Ireland, not about the macro issues around Brexit.

Updated at 08.00 EST

Philip Dunne (Con) welcomes the deal on the NI protocol, and asks if the UK will rejoin the Horizon programme.

Sunak says the UK will continue to work with the EU on a range of areas.